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Offline Per Olsen

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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #15 am: 17. November 2013, 18:15:39 »
Hello.

I downloaded 1.4.6m and upgraded the Tams.  Seems OK.  I will try to use M3, if I can understand how  :)

Regards,
Per.
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #16 am: 17. November 2013, 19:10:50 »
Hi again.

I enabled M3 as described.  Seemed to work OK. 

So I put my TGV on the programming track.  It has an old Motorola adress of 79.  I wanted to put in M3 adress 1079.

Update: I first made a new loco at adress 1079, and put in M3.  Seemed OK.

So I found M3 programming in the menu, and pressed Adress.
I typed in 1079.  After many seconds, the new M3 adress was confirmed.   :)

It took very long.... How long can I wait before the decoder is destroyed?

Next question:  Where do I program all the other parametres, like top-speed, braking etc?  In the M3-programming menu, I find only the Adress..?  Any tips?

Last question:  Now all my other MFX-locos are not running.  How can I now drive them to the programming-track to program them also for M3?

Best regards,
Per.
« Letzte Änderung: 17. November 2013, 20:21:10 von Per Olsen »
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #17 am: 18. November 2013, 23:45:47 »
Hello Per,

1. i can give you no time until decoder destroying...my decoders are all still alive and for some of them the process lasted more tan 60 seconds.

2. Maybe the term m3 programming is a little bit wrong. It is more a kind on mfx address learning.... For other programming stuff as you mentioned a real mfx detector in the Tams would be necessary (which is not inside). So you need to program all other parameters using the Motorola programming method.

3. Just enter a non m3 address in the Tams, power the Tams off and on again. Then no m3 stuff is on the track and you should be able to drive the trains with Motorola, of course only until you call the next m3 address, then you will have to repeat the described procedure.

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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #18 am: 19. November 2013, 21:55:45 »
Hallo Markus.

Thank you (again :)

I have now the TGV OK in MFX-mode controlled by the TAMS.  Seems to work fine.  To be clear: To program all the other parametres, I put it back in Motorola mode, and program they there?  And the changes will be valid also in MFX (M3) mode afterwards?

Best regards,
Per.

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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #19 am: 20. November 2013, 23:49:28 »
Hello Per,

Correct.

Regards
Markus
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #20 am: 24. November 2013, 09:56:06 »
Hello Markus.

Thank you!  Always a pleasure to receive your help.  Thanks again.

Best regards,
Per.
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #21 am: 01. Dezember 2013, 20:44:35 »
Hello again.

Just one follow-up:

I have 2 locos that start running full speed some times, I guess they think they receive analoge signals.  I have been advised to disable this, so I changed the CV 29 to its value minus 4, I think this should diable analog mode.  But the same problem is still there with the same 2 locos.

Is there another way/parametre to disable analoge mode?  I would like to be able to use these 2 locos also... :)

Best regards,
Per.
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #22 am: 01. Dezember 2013, 21:48:50 »
Hi Per,

this is correct. Which decoders are these? I wonder if they "understand" CV29.
Viele Grüße,
Stefan
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #23 am: 02. Dezember 2013, 18:19:51 »
Hi.

One loco is Roco Hector Rail 182.531.  They have the normal CV29 in their manual.
The other is Hobby Trade NSB EL 13.2151 with sound.  I am not sure which decoder is in there, but it does have CV 29 so I can modify.  On both locos I removed 4 from the value of CV29.  But they still start to run on their own, like they think I am using analogue mode.....

What can I do?

Per.
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #24 am: 04. Dezember 2013, 23:02:18 »
Hello Per,

I don't find information which decoders these are. So the only thing I can suggest is to replace the decoders by well known and good decoders.
Viele Grüße,
Stefan
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Re: I have a MFX/TGV problem, any help?
« Antwort #25 am: 05. Dezember 2013, 18:15:22 »
Hello.

Well, I might have to do just that.  Pity, they should work.  As a last resort, I will replace them.

Best regards,
Per.
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