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Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« am: 31. März 2015, 19:47:59 »
Hello,
I already posted something about this issue few months ago but I guess I found an easier way to explain the issue I am facing time to time.
I have attached a PDF file where I try to explain the problem.
I hope this will catch the attention of Windigipet developers.
Best regards.


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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #1 am: 07. April 2015, 14:52:35 »
Hi,
I would like to know if Windigipet developers understood the issue of this post of if nobody did get it.
Thanks .
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #2 am: 07. April 2015, 18:11:07 »
Hello,

the developers are currently very busy finishing version 2015. Therefor I recommend you come back to this problem in May after the new version is released.
Viele Grüße,
Stefan
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #3 am: 10. April 2015, 20:04:12 »
Hello Stefan,
Thanks for your answer,
May be they should give it a look before the release of the 2015 ???
regards.
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #4 am: 10. April 2015, 20:08:17 »
Hello Stefan,
I just saw that 2015 is available in English.
Very good news.
Can we already order it ? Or is it just available at the fair?
Regards.
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #5 am: 10. April 2015, 21:20:11 »
Hi,

yes, you can order it now. But please proceed as mentioned here, contact Mr Peterlin first: http://www.windigipet.de/foren/index.php?topic=72852.0
Viele Grüße,
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #6 am: 11. April 2015, 00:47:42 »
Hi ebarra,

to be honest. I took a look at your problem, but I don´t have any clue how this could happen. I tried to simulate the situation here. I did not saw such a problem in that situation.

This is now the situation we might call "Needle in a haystack". As long as I don´t get any clue how to reproduce this issue, it will be extremly hard to say something more.

One important thing to know in version 2012.2:
In this version the matrix condition in the tree has been applied only to leading vehicle of the train (not the train matrix), in the later versions you can now decide wether the check should be applied to the train matrix, a single vehicle or the leading vehicle or or or or. Maybe this limitation in version 2012.2 could explain your issue.

So any tipps how to reproduce?

Regards
Markus
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #7 am: 11. April 2015, 21:30:36 »
Thank you markus for your comlents.
It is most of the time working and matrix conditions are purely ignorded when the problem occur.
Let's assume I have an ITDN on feed back adress 20 and also,including another feed bacck number 30.
When the problem occur if the train is only on 30 preconditions for tour automatic are not fulfilled (means some of them or all of them are not fulfilled). If now you move the train on the main ITDN 20 then the train start normaly his tour automatic , conditions are fulfilled. Usually also work on 30.

Anyway I will purchase A.S.A.P. The 2015 English release and see ifit still happen.
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #8 am: 11. April 2015, 21:55:25 »
Hello Ebarra,

Just a thought here...did you make the route from feedback 20 to its destination before or after you changed feedback 20 to an ITDN?  If before, try saving the route from feedback 20 to its destination again with the camera symbol in the route editor.

Does this help?

Aloha,

Elliott
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #9 am: 13. April 2015, 11:34:55 »
Hi Helliott,
Good suggestion.
As the layout was made in release 2009, I probably did the route before switching to ITDN. I will see if it makes it more stable.
Some time for testing purpose I remove the ITDN then turn it back on. DO you think I should resave the route every time I do so?
Did you had to face such issue?

Mahalo.
Eric.
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #10 am: 14. April 2015, 22:41:59 »
Hello Eric,

I think once you save the route in your current version(i.e. 2012), you won't need to resave it anymore.  Does it seem more stable now?  I haven't had a chance to test it on my layout yet, but I do recall one time that a train stopped at the end of the platform(leaving two feedbacks unoccupied before the ITDN).This train did not start the next route until I moved it up one feedback contact.  It works with one feedback contact unoccupied before the ITDN.

I only thought of the solution after reading your experience and thought that, like you, I did not update my route from the 2009 version.

Aloha,

Elliott
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Re: Sometimr ITDN does not see anymore trains.
« Antwort #11 am: 21. April 2015, 00:16:39 »
Elliott
I will see if it is still happening with 2015.
I sent the 2012 cd back to Paterlin few days ago and cant wait to receive the usb key.
I will let you know.

Regards
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