Route: Train slows down even when next tour IS FREE. Why ?

[Per Olsen]

Hello !

This worked OK before (I think ), but not now after I re-installed everything and created New routes and tours:

When a Train runs Down a tour, it checks the Next route at the check-contact, and if the next route is free, it is activated and the Train does not slow Down at the brake-contact, but starts the New route.  But now it slows Down to the braking speed anyway, before it accelerates again after the brake-contact.  What am I doing wrong?  This looks a bit akward...   

Best regards,
Per.

PS:  OFF-TOPIC:  Can anybody tell me how to avoid getting CAPITAL letter as the first letter in many of the Words (look at this mail).  I do NOT Write these

[Stefan Lersch]

Hello Per,

maybe you didn't use random before and now you do? That would explain why it takes a while because it takes a random time until the next route is requested.

What you can do is to use the new follow-up routes. Unfortunatelly I don't have WDP round here right now. In the German editon the old ones are the "Folgefahrten" and the new ones the "Anschlussfahrten". When using the first ones the train might stop. But it never will when using the second ones if the next routes are free.

Off topic: What are you using for writing? A PC or a tablet? Tablets like to "correct" your writing....

[Per Olsen]

Hello !

I use both random and not-random, both now and before..

When using Zugfahrten, the Next Fahrstrasse should be activated when reaching the check-contact in the previous Fahrstrasse.  Check-contact is normally the same as the braking-contact.  Earlier the Train went directly to the Next Fahrstrasse when reaching this check-contact without braking.  Sometimes it braked a short time before accellerating again, but now it seems to always run through the entire braking-section before accellerating again.

Yes, I know about Folgefahrten and Anschlussfahrten, but this is not what I am talking about here

Off topic:  This happens only (as far as I have seen) in the WDP forum.  And it happens regardsless if I use my Laptop or my desktop PCs.  I have no tablet..

Regards,
Per.

[Stefan Lersch]

Hello Per,

sorry, mixed it up, I thought you were talking about the Zugfahrtenautomatik, but you're not. Are you using profiles?

Are you writing in English in other forums, too?

[Per Olsen]

Hello Stefan.

That's OK.  No, I am only in this forum.  Yes, I am using profiles, but not all the Fahrstrassen I talk about,  have profiles.  It seems to be the same With or without profiles.

Best regards,
Per.

[Andrzej]

I've experienced very similar problem as I re-worked tours, routes, and automatic operation for WDP2015.
When the first route in tour-automatic was with profile, and the follow-up route had no profile, train jumped up immediately to the follow-up route skipping the speed, functions, macro of the first route. So train started with the speed of the second route, when reaching break contact of the first route it slowed down to the breaking speed, and ran on the breaking speed until nearest speed contact of second tour. Very annoying.
When I've added profiles to follow-up routes that problem disappeared. So far all routes I edited with profile 1, I didn't make tests with other profiles, i.e. followed routes with different profiles.

[Per Olsen]

Hello !

I just checked some more....:

Stefan:  Actually, I do have the same problem With Fahrstrassen and Folgefahrten/Anschlussfahrten.  The Train slows Down to braking speed anyway, and runs on braking speed all through the braking-section, even if the Folgefahrt/Ansclussfahrt already has been activated.  This was definitely not like this before.

Kuba:  I still have the same problem, also With profiles on both routes.  Train slows to braking speed and uses that speed all through the braking-section, even when the NeXT route has been activated.

I noticed that by putting the check-next-route contact further back, the problem sometimes disappear.  But then I have to put it so far back, that it makes other problems.  So I would really like to be able to use the brake-contact as check-contact.  WDP should first see if the Next route is free (and then NOT start the braking) before starting the braking.

Best regards,
Per.

[Per Olsen]

Hello again....

Any more suggestions?  Anyone...?

 

Best regards,
Per.

[Stefan Lersch]

Hello Per,

happy new year!

What happens if you put all of your routes into a Zugfahrtenautomatik? With Anschlussfahrten. Does the train slow down, too?

[Per Olsen]

Hello, Stefan !

Happy new year to you, too !

Yes, it is the same in Zugfahrtenautomatik.

I guess I am doing something wrong, but don't know what it is....

Regards,
Per.

[Stefan Lersch]

Hello Per,


I need your project. Please use the backup option for the forum (which is new in 2015). And a description of the problem.

[Per Olsen]

Hi.

Enclosed is the project.  Hope you can find what I am doing wrong...

The problem is described earlier in this thread..:  Train slows down to braking speed, and maintains that speed through the entire braking-section, even when the next route already has been activated (both in Anschlussfahrten, Folgefahrten and also inside Zugfahrten). Only when I put the Prufe-Kontakt very early, I can avoid the problem.  But this often creates other problems, so I want to use the brake-contact as check-contact.

Regards,
Per.

[Jürgen Gräbner]

Hello,

The problem is described earlier in this thread..:

is clear, but in which tour and what routes we can reproduce that?

[Per Olsen]

Hello.

OK.  I am not home right now, but let me see...:

In Zugfahrten-Automatik "0 Fremvisning 00.ZFA" , lines 062-069.  With Folgefahrten back to station SOLBAKKEN and also Anschlussfahrten line 71 and 72 continuing to line 73 and Folgefahrten to station Nesttun.  All these slow down to braking speed before accelerating again even when all other tracks are free, no other trains moving etc.

In the long Zugfahrten in lines 134-212, the train slows down between Fahrtrassen inside each Zugfahrt.

I do not know what I am doing wrong, and I would really like to fix it.  So I hope you can help me, I look forward to that.

All the best regards,
Per.

[Jürgen Gräbner]

Hello again,

I can´t see it in Simumation. The speed is constant during the Zugfahrt.