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Offline Andrzej

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ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« am: 25. Oktober 2023, 02:46:37 »
Recently, I added ReadyStop (BiDiB) to the ReadyBooster for emergency stopping. In the basic configuration it affects only this one specific booster. I try to find out, how to configure WDP to make a stop on all boosters. Any tips?

From the ReadyStop manual:
1) local booster switch-off (default):
When the emergency stop button is pressed, the booster is switched off or switched on again. The switch-off only affects the connected booster locally. Other boosters on the BiDiBus are not affected by pressing the emergency stop button!
2) global booster shutdown:
When the emergency stop button is pressed, a stop request is sent to the host (control program).
The connected control program then triggers a booster shutdown on all connected boosters. Depending on the program, different behaviors can be defined in the settings: e.g. send speed step 0 instead of booster OFF or prevent restarting by emergency stop button.
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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #1 am: 09. November 2023, 11:50:12 »
Hello Andrzej,
That's not rocket science to get that done. :)
Choose a magnet item and assign it a virtual address.
In the dispatcher, create an unconditional instruction.
Something like , If button XX is active , turns off BidiB  booster (A to Z) .

Besides that, you can also have a system message posted on the screen when the action is in effect . Not because you have to, but because it is possible.

Good luck
Rupert

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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #2 am: 10. November 2023, 18:10:24 »
Rupert, thank you for your advice. But, I'm looking for the way, how to make a use of a button on the ReadyStop under WDP2021 software.
I have ReadyStop modules connected to two different ReadyBoost modules. In default configuration, ReadyStop affects only single booster (ReadyBoost). Other option is to send the message to the control software (WDP in my case), and the software communicates with other boosters on the layout.
Perhaps in spite that the ReadyStop is a new product, WDP is not yet reading it's messages.
More about ReadyStop https://www.fichtelbahn.de/readyboost_readystop.html
Thank you.
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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #3 am: 10. November 2023, 20:26:44 »

Hello Andrzej,
I also had a BidiB system two years ago. I do still have in operation the IF2 and the Stepcontrol for the turntable.
From the looks of it, it is nothing but a remote Emergency Stop , the same emergency button as on the IF2 . It intervenes directly on the BidiB bus. Windigipet monitors the BidiB interface . If you want to have an additional POP up on the screen then you can create a text field.
In the dispatcher, there are three status options Active , Go , Stop
I think "stop" covers it.
( the other two were for info ) 

Otherwise wait until Christmas for the Update , I read on the Fichtelbahn website  :)

kind regards
Rupert



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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #4 am: 10. November 2023, 22:47:35 »
Rupert, I use the GBMBoost, but there is not much difference, because condition options for the digital system in the WDP dispatcher are the same. For the GBMBoost I also have choices of 'inactive', 'active', 'stop', and 'go'.
For the booster, in my case the ReadyBoost, there are only choices 'switched off', and 'turned on' in the WDP dispatcher conditions.
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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #5 am: 14. November 2023, 14:15:04 »
Hallo Andrzej,

Have you looked in the booster window in WDP? There you can configure, which boosters affect the other ones.

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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #6 am: 15. November 2023, 00:41:11 »
Hello Marcus,
yes, I did. Even I configured dispatcher in such way. The problem is in turning off all other boosters if there is a little circuit shortcut on one.
I'm looking for the solution that all boosters are turned off when the emergency stop button is pressed on the ReadyStop/ReadyBoost. When there is just the circuit shortcut only this one booster remains off.
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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #7 am: 15. November 2023, 07:02:06 »
Hi Andrzej,

OK, now I understand. WDP distinguishes in the current release only between Booster on/off and not the between the reason for turning on/off. I will take a look at this for a further release (as condition in the dispatcher).

Suggestion for the meanwhile:
Just configure in the booster window, that the off-message will not affect any other boosters. This will lead to your wish:
Zitat
When there is just the circuit shortcut only this one booster remains off.
In addition install a simple push-button attached to a normal feedback contact input of your digital system. Then in the dispatcher install a record with the condition "when feedback contact is occupied" and the actions "Turn off booster x", "turn off booster y" or "complete emergeny stop" etc. etc.

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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #8 am: 18. November 2023, 03:27:59 »
Hi Marcus,
I think there is something new in the ReadyStop. In default configuration, emergency button can turn on/off booster (ReadyBoost), or in the other option, it can send a message to the layout controling software without affecting booster directly.
Of course, ReadyStop is connected to the ReadyBoost. And ReadyBoost communicates through the BiDiB with software.
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Re: ReadyStop and configuration of the WDP
« Antwort #9 am: 17. Februar 2024, 04:24:02 »
Hi Marcus,
thank you for implementing specific causes of turning ReadyBoost on/off. Now the ReadyStop modules work perfectly with the WDP 2021.2b
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